Uptown housing attorney Ellery Ireland has represented tenants across the city as they battle landlords. He joins Led and Octavio to discuss what it takes to fight against predatory landlords.

This is not a nuts and bolts conversation about do this and do that to beat your landlord - it's just not that easy - it's a discussion about who has power and what it takes for tenants to recognize theirs and to put it into effect.

Ellery, who has a historian's knowledge of rent law in New York guides us through a journey. How was housing-court as we know it created - and for whom.

This episode isa fascinating look at rent law in New York. Join us!